It’s no secret that I’m trying to get my music out in as many places as possible. I just spend a week searching for the best music libraries out there. When I search for music libraries there are number of factors I look at:
- They music library must be non-exclusive, meaning that I can sell the same tracks elsewhere.
- The selling price must be decent. If I overall make less that $15 per sale I wont post my music. The $15 per sale is to be seen as an average of all license types.
- If I don’t make at least $15 per sale I will simple stop posting at the music library and focus on the libraries that makes me more money.
Does all the good libraries review your tracks?
Most of the established libraries do review your tracks. It also seems like they make the most sales. You therefore have to compose some decent music else you wont get approved.
Basically the best libraries don’t want their customers to go through thousands of bad tracks to find the music they need. This also means that you have to use good samples, microphones, mixing and so on. Now it’s not like you have to be an expert, the best way to find out if the libraries like your music is just to sign-up and see if you can get approved.
This week I have signed up to a new bunch of libraries. Some libraries want you to send them an email with a link to your music (preferably your soundclud profile), others requires you to upload 2-4 tracks for review.
I am now waiting to be approved at the music libraries
From the hundreds of stock music libraries out there I picked to the following eight stock music libraries. Hopefully I will be approved for all of them.
- Buystocksound.com Approved. 10-10-2012
- Pumpaudio.com Green lit. But you have to mail them your tracks on CD’s! Not sure I will spend my time on this, it makes no sense that you cant just upload the music. 11-10-2012
- Muziko.com Not approved. They liked the music, but are mainly looking for quirky/fun music for web and corporate music. 15-16-2012
- Neosounds.com Temporarily not accepting new submissions. 16-10-2012
- Jinglepunks.com Not accepted. In the mail they said nothing about what kind of music they are looking for just “We appreciate your interest in Jingle Punks. Unfortunately we will be unable to add your music to our library at this time” and ” feel free to submit again in the future (after a 60-day waiting period) ” 31-10-2012
- Themusicase.com (Approved. 08-11-2012)
- Beatpick.com Not accepted. In the mail they said “Your music submission is much appreciated, however after reviewing your tracks, we are are sorry to inform you that BeatPick has decided not to select them for its online catalogue” 25-01-2013)
- SoundImage.eu (waiting for an answer)
- Stockmusic.net (waiting for an answer)
- Shockwave-sound.com (waiting for an answer)
- Musicloops.com (a minimum of 50 tracks to be considered)
- AudioSparx.com (a minimum of 30 tracks to be considered)
I send all of them my best 2-4 tracks so now there’s not much to do, other than waiting for the answers. I will keep this post updated with the answers so you can get an idea of how hard it is to get approved.
Do you really need to sign up with that many libraries to make any money?
You need to figure out which libraries that make sales and which that don’t. There’s no exact science to this. One composer can make many sales at a library while others make nothing at all. It all comes down to the style of music your write and the general quality of your tracks. It’s a lot of work that’s the only thing you can be sure of.
So you basically have to sign-up at a lot of libraries, get approved, upload your music, optimise your track titles, tags and descriptions and thereby learn which libraries that make sales.
How many tracks do you need to make a decent amount of money?
There are a lot of factors that comes into play, so telling you how many tracks you need to make a living from selling stock music is not easy.
- How much do you sell your tracks for?
- How good is your music?
- Does your music fit a niche where there is high demand but little supply?
- Does your music target people who have money to spend (corporate music etc.)
- Are your track titles, tags and descriptions optimized?
- How many libraries are you signed up with?
- Are you listed at the best selling libraries?
- Do you promote the music yourself?
People who make a living selling music for the stock libraries say you need around 1000-1500 tracks, to make it happen. But based upon all of the factors above this number could be much higher or much lower. Of cause the more tracks you have at the libraries the better the chances of being found and making a sale.
I personally don’t think I will need 1000 tracks to make a living from stock music, but my approach is probably also different from most.
I believe that choosing the right libraries, promoting my music outside the libraries, optimizing track descriptions and deliver high quality music is the way to become successful. Only time will tell, but these are the main points that hopefully will lead to selling lots of music.
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Hey!
Thanks for this article!!!
I will check those libraries too!!
I’m also waiting for an answer from Beatpick and themusicase!
Have you tried to sign up with Yookamusic? I submitted a song to them (one that is on Pond5 and Revostock and will be on Proteanmusic soon) but they refused it.. So I sent them an email to know why but no reply yet.
For Neosounds, I remembered them sending me an email back in April, telling me that they weren’t currently accepting new composers as they were updating their new business model.. I haven’t tried since then though!
Yes, I also have my music approved for sale at YookaMusic, but I have not made any sales so far. Uploading the tracks is also kind of a hassle, but they should be able to make some sales.
I will update this post updated with the answers I get – also from NeoSounds 🙂
hi!
have you considered audijoungle?
i’m on it and so far it’s the place where i sold most.
but i plan to go on other platforms as well and your posts are really interesting!
I don’t think I will post my music at audiojungle. The selling price for a track is very low. When the same track can be sold for a $40 profit (or more) vs. a $5 profit on AudioJungle, then it’s a very small profit per sold track. (some is also seeing it as underbidding our own music).
I have however heard of composers getting other jobs through AudioJungle, jobs that pays better, so I would not entirely rule them out. It seem like a great platform and I wish you could set your own prices.
I have considered making some exclusive tracks for audiojungle, simple ones that take no more than an hour or so to compose and see how it goes. But I think my time is well spent on high quality tracks and will probably continue to compose like I do now.
I’m happy that you are successfully selling your music a AudioJungle.
Thanks for commenting 🙂
Hi Anders, great site, I’m just getting into all this myself. I was wondering if you cut your tracks down into 60 second, 30 and other cuts? I know that some people say that for the 1000+ tracks that these smaller edits are included. Thanks for any help!
Thanks! I have not been making 60 and 30 second versions of my tracks, but I have no doubt that it would lead to more sales.
If I were a video editor and needed music for a 30 or 60 sec spot, the ones already cut would be my first choice.
It’s something that I will test on some of my future tracks. Right now I’m finishing a 60 sec track and a cut down 30 sec version. My results of the cut down versions will of cause be posted here on the blog.
Making shorter versions is not that time consuming. I should probably have done it right from the start and as you say it sure will make it a lot faster for us to make it to 1000+
Hello Anders! It’s me Stef from composers dot ning!
Aiming for that $1000+ per month, huh? Well I’m taking your advice with everything you talked about on the composers site and I’ll start uploading to productiontrax. By the way, how long do you think it will take to get to that 1000 mark? Number of songs, number of years, etc.?
Thank you much
Stef
Hi Stef
It’s hard to say how long it will take to get to $1000 a month. I think I would need around 200 tracks (that’s if I don’t do any thing new like signing up with new libraries or spend any time on promoting etc.), but as mentioned in the post there are so many different factors – it’s very difficult to say how long it will take.
At my current production rate of tracks it will take me years to get 200 tracks, but I could be much more organized when it comes to getting new tracks done.
Well hey man, all the best of luck to you. You’re my inspiration for getting back into putting songs on the net for sale like I was doing at fiverr dot com. Thank you much!
Stef
I agree that you need to research which sites aer the top sellers and get as much of your quality work on them. However, I would say that once this is achieved it can only benefit to have tracks on as many marketplaces as possible.
Most customers have their preferred sites that they go directly to. This site may not be in the top 5 and to supply only to them is ruling out a huge customer base. Saturate the market. Get as many tracks out on as many sites as possible so wherever customers go you have the potential to earn.
Most sites are smart enough to make uploading your content easy and if they sit on the site forever and only sell a few times, it’s money you wouldn’t have got otherwise.
You gotta throw a wide net out to catch the most fish.
I guess that in the end it all comes down to what you’re comfortable with. But as you say getting the quality work on the top selling sites should be first priority.
And I totally agree that the more libraries you are listed at, the better are the chances of making a sale.
Uploading music to YouTube and linking to your most updated music library profile can also be recommended. It does not take much time and will lead to views -> clicks -> sales.
When you say you think you would need 200 tracks to get to $1000 a month, are you referring to the same tracks uploaded across multiple libraries, or 200 unique and different tracks? Trying to figure out what I should be aiming for here…
The same 200 tracks uploaded and tagged across multiple libraries.
how do you advertise the same track over different marketplaces??
and what about the price? to you keep the same tracks over the different marketplaces or do you have a range of prices??
usually you are not allowed to decide the price and there are different prices for different licenses to complicate further the price decision… how do you manage this?
1) I only link to one library from YouTube, Soundcloud etc. I link to the library that I think will make the most money.
2) I have the same tracks on all marketplaces.
3) On my best tracks I will set the price around $50 – $60.
3) If I make less than $15 per sold track I wont post my music. Am I making $15 or more I will continue to post.
hi!
regarding the choice of not selling to audiojungle, have a look at this website:
http://www.andrea.baroni.name/licensing/
he is selling on pond5 and on AJ. same track, more or less the same price.
but look at how much sales he has on AJ and how much on pond5.
the sad fact (and my feeling, too) is that on AJ you can sell much more because there is more traffic. more track at less price. why not??
so i suggest you to sell also on AJ. you are losing a potential income…
Hi Matteo
My reason for not uploading to AJ is that people might will shop around to get the tracks at the cheapest price. If a track is for example sold for 59.95 at productiontrax, then a price of $11 or less at AJ could pull buyers from the sites that pay the composer a decent commission for his work.
It does however seem that most buyers of library music stick to the places they know and don’t shop that much around – just guessing here…
But you might be right. I will reconsider posting my music at AJ 🙂
well, you are right but consider also the license…
the cheapest price on AJ is for the regular license and people must pay more for the extended license.
i know , however, that licensing understanding is very poor by my side… and maybe production trax license and AJ extended license have the same restrictions.
or that you can not use AJ regular license for things for which you would use a track bought on productiontrax.
in any case… i wish good luck to you! you have good portfolio and seems very motivated. maybe on AJ you will sell more at cheper price, and the total monthly income will increase in any case! 🙂
Forgot to add another reason for me not being listed at AJ and AudioMicro at the moment. Sites like AudioSparx and MusicLoops wont sell your music if you’re listed at a range of stock micro sites.
AudioSparx state on their website that “we do not wish to associate ourselves with artists who sell their music at those sites and thereby assist in this devaluation of the industry”
Whether this “devaluation of the industry” is true or not cannot be found out, but the fact is that they wont accept your music if you’re on AJ, AudioMicro and a range of other sites.
really loving all this info! thought i was alone out here! 🙂 so does anyone here also sell their music outright on itunes, amazon, etc? i do but have little income from it. licensing is the way to go.
also, is there a way to promote or get more exposure on pond5? i’m trying the “feature” option on productiontrax for a while and see how that goes. i have had no sales on there this year… and only two on pond5 ($40 profit).
“Forgot to add another reason for me not being listed at AJ and AudioMicro at the moment. Sites like AudioSparx and MusicLoops wont sell your music if you’re listed at a range of stock micro sites”
but are you on AudioSparx or MusicLoops ? if not, why not trying AJ? you can always delete the track from there in the future…
I just send a request to Shockwave-sound to get listed in their library and with them AJ i also a no go. So Audio Jungle is left hanging for a while…
has anyone tried to submit music to themusicbed.com? just wondering how or if this can be done.
I don’t know the themusicbed.com, perhaps the easiest way to find out is to email them and ask (perhaps you already tried that?). I took a quick look at their site. It seems to be a rather closed circle of composers that runs the it, but it does look like a good library.
i emailed themusicbed and they asked for a link to listen to my music. we’ll see. i now have some or all of my music on these sites:
pond5
productiontrax
buystocksound(looks like small amount of music?)
audiomicro
audiojungle (only 33%?)
just got accepted with themusicase (in greece)
still waiting to hear back from revostock.
Yes, RevoStock can take a while to get back to you. With Revostock I waited 14 days then wrote them to ask and was then approved within a few hours. That was over a year ago, so the waiting period may be different now.
btw, themusicase gives 43% commision. productiontrax at 65% is still the best! but i haven’t sold anything with them since december.
I just got approved with Themusicase as well, but was wondering about the commission. I have now also added Themusicase to the new production music library list.
i’m pretty sure it’s 43%. i’ve got over 120 songs on there so we’ll see. anyone here use getty/pump audio through soundcloud? i have a few tracks with them but have seen no sales from it.
Just did some checking and here’s my 2012 commission from Pond5 and Productiontrax since joining in Feb 2012. I had about 50 tracks on each at first adding another 30 or so by end of the year. As you can see, not much income. I have since joined 6 more places and placed about 120 tracks on each. Hope 2013 will be a better year.
Pond5: 2012: $130.00
Productiontrax: 2012: $262.00
Just got reply from http://www.soundtaxi.net based in Germany. Any experience with them? They require a lot of paperwork and do not allow music that is posted on places like those mentioned here. My question is how can I know how well my music would do on a site like this? Maybe I could choose a couple dozen tracks and just try. Seems like a very professional site.
Well, guys. In spite of AJ’s lower commission, I’ve now sold 4 songs (standard license) in just one week. And I only have half of my songs up so far. Never had that kind of sales on Pond5 or Productiontrax.
Here’s another royalty-free place I ran into:
http://www.royaltyfreekings.com/
And this one reports on royalty-free places:
http://www.musiclibraryreport.com/
Looks like you have to pay to be a member of the Music Library Report.
Yeah, he changed it to a paid service some years ago, something about him getting tiered of people just taking all the information, but giving nothing back.
It being a paid service is one of the reasons I have started to build a library list here on EagleCinematics…and because I think all of you who are taking the time leave a comment with your experiences are awesome!
Quick update and good news! Sold 2 more standard licenses on Audiojungle and someone in Romania bought a Platinum license on themusicase.com for one of my simpler piano/strings pieces. So I made 43% of $261!! This is what I want! Only wish I could know how it’s being used.
So, that’s great! 🙂
I will have a look at the library now… thx for the suggesion!! 😛
but how many tracks sold you there, so far (all kind of licences)? and since how long have you been in the library?
Thats very good David. Now I just hope the sales at TheMusicAse will keep coming on a regular bases for you.
Hey David, in Audiojungle you can see the ‘invoice’ or receipt of who purchased that track in your dashboard (I forget which tab…maybe statement?). Sometimes it will have the company or individual’s name. Do some googling, and you just might find where your track went! I’ve done this a couple times.
Another question… how much more response would I get if I upload higher quality files such as wav or aiff? I normally just post 320k MP3s.
Cant really give a straight answer on that one David as I only upload in wav format (mp3 when its the only option).
Some very picky producers might also only want the highest quality, but as you probably know very few can hear the difference between a 320 kbit/s MP3 and a wav file.
I don’t think its that important, but wav is compatible with pretty much all video editing software out there. So in my mind there is a slight advantage in uploading tracks in wav format.
thanks. i might go back and upload wav files on those places that allow it.
That was the first track I’ve sold. I have 81 songs with them and have only been a member for about 10 days. I have another 60 tracks to add. Sold another track today but only the $30 Silver license… which means $13 for me. Oh well…
my question of the day: why is pond5 the only one who has only one price for licensing? most have at least two levels. i also decided to change my prices (on those that allow it) so i make at least $15 per track for the standard license.
I don’t know, but I guess they just wanted to make it as simple as possible for the buyer. My prices at pond 5 is set a little above the average.
Anyone know how to submit to http://www.themusicbed.com ?
http://www.alexa.com could be a nice way to know about a website and the traffic that collects. higher rank could imply higher traffic -> more buyers (sellers??) -> more chance to sell “general” audio.
audiojungle is 11,418
pond5 is ranked at position 16,437
audiomicro 24,442
revostock is 55,852
audiospark 58,877
productiontrax, luckstock, musicrevolution are not ranked
i have not checked others.
my sales generally reflects these stats. a lot of sales on AJ (about 150), less on pond5 (about 20), 4-5 of revostock. (i’m not on audiomicro/spark, luckstock), 0 at productiontrax/musicrevolution.
My experience from running affiliate websites tells me that the number of visitors is not that important when it comes to making sales.
I have a website with over 10.000 visitors a month that makes almost no money and another with around 1000 visitors a month that makes much more.
It all comes down to where the traffic is coming from and what mindset the visitors are in, when they arrive at the website (and of cause the websites ability to sell)
Just wanted to give you this perspective too, so you don’t miss out at some great libraries based on the overall number of visitors.
interesting. so far, i sell the most on audiojungle but of course am disappointed the payout is so low. musicase is also doing pretty well for me. just made another wide license sale which means over $100 in commission! most of the other places are only a sale here and there… or nothing at all.
I really need to sit down and upload my music to musicase, it seems like it will soon be your best selling library. 🙂
yes, i like them. some inconveniences… you have to ftp files and they must be in wav format. and if often takes a while for them to process them…after i bug them a little. i also wish they would pay more than twice a year… but overall i seem to sell more to clietns in other countries…. maybe because they’re based in greece? the two wide license sales i had were from sales in romania and germany.
I have tried to contact them twice both by email and by their website contact form but i got no reply….
OK! finally they have replied me… let’s see now how it will proceed and if i will get some good sales like david! 😛
they are really slow… still no contacts after i replied to their first email saying that my music has been accepted!
yeah… i’ve been pestering them for weeks about pending songs. 🙁
Why are there so many problems by contacting them?